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 Alphawolf
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 150 Posts
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Sunday, October 04, 2009 5:49:36 PM
Wow I hate post's like this. It causes so many uprises |
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 Asakura
Female, 18-29, Western US
38 Posts
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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:43:17 PM
Lerie wasn't tryign to compare the two i don't think. Atheists get offended too easily. If you want to reprove theories in science that were once proven to be right even though new proof disprooves the old, it creates separate schools of science.People said columbus was an idiot for thinking the world was round. Science is what it is and religion is what it is too. Oh, and, Arguing on the internat is for losers. I'll bet Lerie never reads your posts. |
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 airsofter1
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
877 Posts
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Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:16:31 PM
well its clear that religion is the only thing stopping you from going u know what f_uck it im lighting that pile of orphans on fire. i mean death sentence isnt really eternal damnnation and science is the only thing stopping us from being in the middle ages so a mix is best. |
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 Nao_Mi
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
22 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 9:00:55 PM
Lol. XD I'm not atheist, but that was still very funny. |
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 davymid
Male, 18-29, Europe
5553 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 8:56:13 PM
Bob, Ferdy, I trust that I may have just scored the winning goal for the atheists, seconds away from full time. Back to you guys in the hustings... |
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Nao_Mi
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
22 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 8:27:08 PM
Thank you, davymid. Science is a collection of actual, proven facts. You can in no way compare it to the mythological dribble of any religion. |
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davymid
Male, 18-29, Europe
5553 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 8:22:48 PM
lerie, with all due respect, you have no idea how science works, do you? Here's a hint:Christianity: based on a bronze-age book of fables. One source. Unchallengable, infallible, perfect. In simple terms, observed phenomena must fit the theory. Science: Let's throw it out to the peer-reviewed international community, and if it's repeatable, sensible and predictive, we'll adopt it as science. By concensus. In simple terms,theories must fit the observed phenomena. As a professional scientist, I find your labelling of science as a new religion to be anathema. We do things very differently to the way religion does things, you'll find. |
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 lerie
Female, 18-29, S. America
470 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 5:52:02 PM
Replace "God" with "the scientists" and "bible" with "science journal" and you'll also understand how difficult it is to publish creative papers about new and relevant theories and experiments in journals.Science, my dears, is the new christianity. |
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 Keegan31
Male, 18-29, Western US
85 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 5:23:40 PM
God is all-powerful and all-knowing. When God created me, he knew everything I would ever do in my lifetime. He knew, when he made me whether I was destined for heaven, or an eternity of pain and suffering. He knew I would burn in hell, yet he made me anyway. He created me to suffer. drat him. |
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 meeseman
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
79 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 4:41:13 PM
wow. someone mocking christians. originality at its finest! find a hobby pertinent to society. |
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 maddices
Male, 18-29, Canada
93 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 2:42:05 PM
@overmann
about religion having origins in deep seated ingnorance of weather phenomenon, you're probably right |
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 CaaBaaRaa
Female, 13-17, Europe
170 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 12:24:25 PM
Haha, that's good. |
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 Standards
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
883 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 12:14:49 PM
I hope I wasn't the one to start all of this with my previous comment :/BUUUUUUUTTT, since we're in this and no one cares about my opinions, I'll say it anyway. If God (or G-d as my religion would tell me) decides not to help me in my daily or weekly life, then I wont help him in his daily weekly life. I'll rely on science until I'm on my deathbed and staring down heaven/hell/neither. THEN I'll know what to believe in. |
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 almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
1536 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 9:44:53 AM
On a late note, quickly looking at the battlefield, the Believers took a early advantage, but the Non's pushed back the line, and then the Trolls came rushing down the hill, and it became quite ugly...I say its a tie right now
Absolutely right Fred. A late development, the theists scored a bit of an own goal when one of them put forth Pascal's Wager, but the atheists' side was let down by several of their number promoting "a basic knowledge of science" while simultaneously recommending carbon dating for artifacts several orders of magnitude older than its useful limit. Some mistakes made here by both sides, and at this point it could go either way.
Back to you in the studio Fred. |
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 ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
1719 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 8:53:46 AM
Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
5004 Posts Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:51:46 PM
God I love IAB religious debatesHas anyone won yet?
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On a late note, quickly looking at the battlefield, the Believers took a early advantage, but the Non's pushed back the line, and then the Trolls came rushing down the hill, and it became quite ugly...I say its a tie right now |
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 Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
3145 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 8:41:59 AM
"Times I've seen a Christian make this argument: ~10."It's not so much an argument verbally made but rather an argument assumed sound by Christians when they call upon the Bible for support. Go ahead: ask a few Christians why they feel anything written in the Bible has any credibility at all and note their response. By the way, were you able to read my last post addressed to you in the 'Intelligent Design Zoo' thread, Baalthazaq? I asked a question for which I'm still eagerly anticipating a response. On a side note, it's odd how pictures of the sky are usually associated with religious themes. It's a gimmick that I bet has deeply embedded roots in early human psychology after witnessing weather hazards such as lightning and hurricanes. Does religion have its origins in a deep-seated ignorance of weather phenomenon? |
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 MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
236 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 6:20:18 AM
noggin1 : Your quite write about the use of you're/your. And yes, the wheel . obviously. and *I am* a douche bag.. silly me. Is their a wheel for the Koran as well? ;) |
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 natakalt
Female, 18-29, S. America
1743 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 5:04:34 AM
Hahahha this reminds me of a south park episode... the one about the mormons and smith, gosh I love that show, but sometimetimes reality can be stranger than fiction. |
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Noggin01
Male, 18-29, Southern US
33 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 4:48:32 AM
>>> Question for the believers - how do you know you're religion, which probably is the one you grew up with, is *the* right one?Two things.
1. It is "your" not "your're"
2. Take a look at the damn wheel you douche bag. That is how I know. |
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MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
236 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 4:34:56 AM
Question for the believers - how do you know you're religion, which probably is the one you grew up with, is *the* right one? |
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 Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
2594 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 1:43:27 AM
Times I've seen people accuse Christians of this: ~2000. Times I've seen people accuse a Christian of this circular logic: ~1000. Times I've seen a Christian make this argument: ~10. Hell I've seen debates about the Bible with Atheists insisting the Bible cannot be mentioned or else it's circular logic. What things like this do, is arm the ignorant with an argument. This is why you have people who have no knowledge of theology trying and failing to win a debate, by repeating ad infinitum "Strawman", or "Circular Reasoning" or etc, whether it applies or not. Then again, indoctrination and memorizing arguments rather than understanding seems to be more than satisfactory for some. In fact, lets draw up an alternative to the picture shall we? State the Problem of Evil argument -> Ignore responses -> Repeat. "Can God make a mountain he can't lift?" -> Ignore responses -> Repeat. Really? This is IAB worthy? |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
2691 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 12:45:49 AM
davymid: When I was referring to the "extremely small" it's relating to the sub-atomic. Even the sub-atomic science doesn't fit well with the molecular science of Einstein. E=MC2 was proven and is usable. Dark matter, Dark energy, Higgs-Boson, and String theory are not and may never be. |
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Wazpoppin9
Male, 18-29, Australia
70 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 12:21:24 AM
"Explain why any "perfect" and "loving" being would create humans that were bound to act up and then punish them for eternity when they do."Ok well, punishment is punishmet... if you do something bad, you get punished... Christians believe that God is all loving... but the thing is *in our free will* we chose to disobey him and do our own thing... so therefore he brought J.C. do come and die and take our sins... and God said that you can be redeemed simply by accepting Him... so therefore, if you dont, *thats* where the punishment comes in... which just so happens to be, yes, eternal. look it sounds harsh, but Christians *do* believe that there is hope through Jesus Christ. if you want some more info: http://www.christiananswers.net/ |
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 KMeTG
Male, 18-29, Europe
1151 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 12:09:40 AM
Oh, by the way, blood.In simpler, smaller organisms you don't need a heart to transport nutrients and oxygen. |
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KMeTG
Male, 18-29, Europe
1151 Posts
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Friday, September 25, 2009 12:06:36 AM
Zerro: I'm sure an evolutionary biologist would be able to shed some light on your question.Just because someone doesn't believe in God doesn't mean they automatically have a PhD in any given subject; nor does it mean they think they do. But faced with a choice between believing a fantasy created by ignorant knowledge-lacking bronze-age farmers, or believing a team of genius scientists who have devoted n-amount of time into one particular field, I know I'll take the scientists. |
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