2012 Isn't The End Of The World, Mayans Insist

Read this as well:

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420,000 years ago was certainly before homo sapiens. So was 325,000 years ago. And 240,000. It's rather unlikely there were industrial revolutions then. Or 125,000 years ago. A small number of hunter-gatherer humans wouldn't have had an industrial revolution.

Climate change is real, but much more complicated than it's often made out to be.

It is true that there's a 'supervolcano' there. The eruption of these is actually an explosion caused by a buildup of pressure in a strong container (the hard rock surface of the area). Imagine a welded steel container filled with water which is then heated to boiling point. It will burst. Now scale it up a few billion times. We're talking 100 mile crater scale here.

Evidence indicates that it has happened 3 times in the last 2.1 million years, with 600,000-800,000 years between them. There have been many smaller eruptions too.

There's no evidence of massive eruptions before 2.1 million years ago.

"the world is gonna end in 2012 & man made global warming is real too"

Read this.

oh, to keep the world from ending in 2012, i'm sure someone will be demanding your money very soon, probably the government. i would give them all your money, since you won't be needing it, if by chance the world doesn't end, climate change is gonna getcha anyway.

Just in case you're being serious:

The Mayans were not using the symbols we use for numbers, nor were they using a decimal year-numbering system dating from a mistaken belief about the year in which Jesus was born, so the 1's and 2's in our version of the date are irrelevant.

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well as the beliefs of the Hopi Indians, with the changing of the zodiac ages all stating the same thesis, all converging with in the same time frame each documented at separate times not interrelated, all having to do with mankind making a change for a better future.

I am not stating that the world is or will be coming to an end in doom and gloom destruction like these "end of day" theists.
I am stating that world will experience a change for the better. It is the end of the world as we know it, so to speak. We have gone through materialism and world warfare - yes this taking place for thousand of years but more globally in the last century. This will end, probably not in our life time as the transition is over a course of a cycle of 5000 years to come. But the next generations of people will not suffer like the past generations.

I'm not seeing how your post is a reply to my point that the existence of greed, natural disaster and wars is not a new thing and is not evidence of the immiment end of anything.

Your post seems to be a typical expression of faith - if anything happens, you can attach it to the prophecy date and if nothing happens you've got that covered as well with your comment about a marker in the cycle of time.

You claim to believe in this very recent corruption of the Mayan calendar.

Do you believe in the Mayan creation story, the Mayan starting point for the calendar and the Mayan religious belief of the importance of a cycle of 13 baktun?

If the answer to any of those questions is 'no', then you are talking self-contradictory rubbish.

Or... What the hell am I thinking? People don't get motivated to do that in times of crisis--people become more self-centered...

That's been true throughout recorded history and probably before then. Why should the next date people have made up be any different to the millenia before now?

"The date of 12-21-2012 - is not the date you will see the change but a date in a solar calendar, being the winter solstice, as a point in time where this transition will take place."